The Audit Podcast

This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Shannon Urban, Chief Audit Executive at Hasbro. In this episode, Shannon shares how she’s leading her team through a major shift—reallocating about half of her full-time audit staff—and why that move is positioning her team for long-term impact. She also discusses how she’s upskilling her team on AI and analytics and what conversations she’s having with her peers on audit roundtables. Shannon also shares how to build real credibility with the board—something that’s been a theme in recent episodes and continues to be a critical topic for audit leaders. Oh, and if you’re watching on YouTube, don’t miss a look at Shannon’s office—arguably the coolest one we’ve seen on the show. Be sure to connect with Shannon on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 1:43- How Hasbro's CEO is leading IA into AI 4:00 - How a CAE uses Enterprise Wide Copilot 6:13 - Coaching Teams on Copilot and ChatGPT 12:15 - Why Internal Audit Should Lead the AI Charge 14:24 - The Value of CAE Roundtables 16:08 - Weighing AI’s Risks and Rewards 25:00 - Making the Most of a Large IA Budget 31:36 - How CAEs Can Get Better at Building Relationships 36:06 - Final Thoughts * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

In the first episode of IA on AI, John Thomason joins Trent to talk about one of the biggest questions in the audit world right now: Is AI Taking Over Audit Jobs? They break down: What AI can and can’t do (yet) in audit How the role of the auditor might shift Why this isn’t just about losing jobs — it’s about changing how we work They also touch on what to expect from the show going forward and why internal auditors should want to stay in the AI conversation. Be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re continuing our Retired CAE Summer Series with Kevin Ryan, former Chief Risk Review Officer and General Auditor at KeyBank, where he spent 38 years—15 of those in audit leadership. In this episode, Kevin reflects on the importance of relationships and shares how he was able to gain the ear of the CEO, something many auditors strive for. He also offers a personal story that would serve as a lesson in office politics, and answers the question: if his audit career were a book, what would the first and last chapters be about? Be sure to connect with Kevin on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 1:52 – How a Retired CAE Uses ChatGPT 5:33 – What You Can Learn From Relationships 10:40 – How to Gain the Year of the CEO 13:36 – What to Do if You Only Get 15 Minutes With the CEO 16:57 – Why Working With Other CAEs Matters 19:22 – A Lesson About Office Politics 21:28 – Opening Chapter of Your Career 24:22 – Final Chapter of Your Career 25:42 – Building your Self Awareness 27:55 – Final Thoughts * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re continuing our Retired CAE Summer Series with Mike Jenkins, former VP of Internal Audit at Facebook, Gap, and Included Health, and former Director of Financial Audit at Google. Since retiring, Mike has embraced a new chapter—as an artist. In this episode, he shares how creativity has always been a superpower for him, both in his art and throughout his audit career. Mike reflects on what he's learned over the years, offers advice for today’s audit professionals, and discusses what it really means to interact with the board and audit committee—sharing what those moments looked like in his own experience. Be sure to connect with Mike on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 1:36 – How a retired CAE is using ChatGPT 6:08 – Mike’s secret weapon as a CAE 15:55 – Mike’s three key lessons: Learn much more 21:04 - Learn to talk 25:56 - Learn to Date 31:25 – Building relationships with the audit committee 34:52 – Final thoughts * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re continuing our Retired CAE Summer Series with Dale Jeanes, former General Auditor (CAE) at Truist, where he spent an impressive 34 years. Dale now leads Jeanes Professional Development, where he coaches internal audit, risk management, and finance professionals. In this episode, Dale joins the show to reflect on his career and his current work as a coach. He shares practical advice for professionals in the field, how to maintain integrity as auditors, and his take on what people often misunderstand about being a CAE. We also explore a fun thought experiment: If Dale wrote a book about his career, what would the first and last chapters be about? This series is all about gaining insights from those who have stepped back from the profession—and seeing things with a little more clarity. Be sure to connect with Dale on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 3:47 – Using ChatGPT for Idea Development 8:23 – Dale’s Most Coachable Moment 12:40 – Techniques to Elicit Eeflection 17:37 – Dale’s Politics Lesson for Auditors 21:24 – CAE as Chief Audit Innovation Officer 29:26 – Building Leadership from the Start 31:27 – Thoughts on Leadership Training 35:02 – Maintaining Integrity as an Auditor 36:36 – Final Thoughts * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re kicking off our Retired CAE Summer Series with Bob Brewer, former Chief Audit Executive at Las Vegas Sands and former Chief Compliance Officer at Office Depot. With almost two years of retirement under his belt, Bob joins the show to reflect on his career from a fresh perspective. In this episode, he shares what he would do differently if he had the chance to start over, the political lessons he learned as a full-time executive, and the one thing he wishes every auditor would do. We also explore a fun thought experiment: If Bob wrote a book about his career, what would the first and last chapters be about? This series is all about gaining insights from those who have stepped back from the profession—and seeing things with a little more clarity. Be sure to connect with Bob on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 2:25 – How a Retired CAE uses LLMs 4:43 – Career Reflections 6:33 – Go-To Audit Resources 10:35 – A Lesson in Audit Politics 19:45 – Top Advice for Auditors 25:50 – The Critical Role of People, Processes, and Technology 33:10 – Final Thoughts * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Shagen Ganason, Group Chief Auditor, and Chief Audit Executive at Liva Group. In this episode, Shagen shares the inspiration behind his new book, The Storyteller’s Ledger, and why he believes storytelling is one of the most powerful tools internal auditors can develop. From rethinking traditional audit reports to presenting to the board, Shagen offers a practical framework for transforming audit communication—complete with templates, examples, and coaching strategies he's used with his own teams. Be sure to connect with Shagen on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 4:30 – Keeping the Audit Committee Engaged 6:28 – Why Audit’s Influence Matters 10:16 – Traditional vs. Story-Driven Audit Findings 13:48 – Turning Audit Reports Into Compelling Stories 16:55 – Highlighting Cause and Effect Clearly 20:16 – Storytelling to the Audit Committee 26:06 – Delivering a Clear and Confident Message 30:15 – Helping Your Team Master Storytelling 34:50 – Final Thoughts * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Beth Womersley, Head of Assurance & Advisory Services at Universal Destination & Experiences. Beth shares her experience launching and leading ERM programs across multiple organizations. As internal audit teams take on more ERM responsibilities, she shares tips on where to start, how to get support from leadership, and what frameworks to consider. Be sure to connect with Beth on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 1:46 – How an ERM Expert Uses LLMs 6:13 – What Is Enterprise Risk Management (ERM)? 11:53 – Setting Up Your Team to Implement ERM 14:00 – Building the Business Case for ERM 19:12 – How to Pitch ERM to the Board 23:04 – Facilitating the ERM Process 30:40 – Final Thoughts * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Nancy Yuen, Financial Data and VP of SOX Governance at SoFi. In this episode, Nancy shares how emotional intelligence has been a driving force behind her career success—from her early days at KPMG to leadership roles at Clorox, Google, and now SoFi. Nancy realized she needed to intentionally build her emotional intelligence in order to thrive professionally. She opens up about that journey, how developing strong communication skills transformed her leadership style, and offers practical strategies others can apply in their own careers. Be sure to connect with Nancy on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 3:10 - Strategies for Supporting an Overextended Team 8:22 - Nancy's Journey to Finding Emotional intelligence 21:19 - Acting Classes for Auditors 28:50 – Letting Go of Ego to Build a Stronger Team 33:30 - Final thoughts * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Chris Denver, former CAE and IIA Chicago President. In this episode, Chris walks us through the forward-looking staffing model he’s developed—one that balances internal talent with digital tools and trusted external partners to create a more flexible, future-ready audit function. He shares how this hybrid approach not only drives efficiency but also helps his team stay responsive in a constantly changing business environment. Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 2:40 – Using LLMs for Creativity and Innovation 5:00 – Rethinking the Traditional Audit Staffing Pyramid 11:20 – Why Automation Is Essential to the Evolving Audit Process 16:40 – Putting the New Internal Audit Model into Practice 19:30 – Preparing Future Auditors 23:03 – Final Thoughts * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

This week on The Audit Podcast, we’ve gathered the best moments from our conversations with Agentic AI experts—featuring standout insights from Charles King, John Thompson, and Andrew Clark. Be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 4:46- Charles King: Understanding the Fundamentals of Agentic AI 7:52 - John Thompson: Using Agents to Help Auditors Focus on What Matters Most 11:28 - Andrew Clark: Challenging the Conventional Thinking on Agentic AI 19:06 - Trent Russell: How Audits Fit Into the World of Agentic AI * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Rob Clark Jr., Chief Auditing and Compliance Officer at Howard University. In this episode, Rob breaks down the one skill that separates good auditors from great ones: communication. He pulls back the curtain on how he preps, practices, and performs, whether it’s a team meeting, a presentation, or a high-stakes conversation. Be sure to connect with Rob on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 5:00 – Using ChatGPT to Learn About Cybersecurity 9:20 – Why Communication Skills Matter More Than Technical Know-How 15:30 – A Practical Approach to Building Confidence in Meetings 23:29 – How to Recover When a Presentation Doesn’t Land 25:51 – Getting Started with Public Speaking 32:17 – How to Strengthen Your Presentation Skills 43:33 – Key Conversations Throughout the Audit Lifecycle 50:53 - Final Thoughts * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Mark Freeman, Head of Internal Audit at Vermeer Corporation. In this episode, Mark shares insights from a recent CAE roundtable, where recruitment, audit committee metrics, and Copilot use cases topped the agenda. He also walks us through how he rebuilt internal audit’s reputation at Vermeer after stepping into a challenging environment. Plus, he gives us a look at the actual metrics he shares with his audit committee—offering a practical starting point for your own reporting conversations. Be sure to connect with Mark on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 3:03 - Timeless Advice from Charlie Munger 7:15 - Rethinking Recruitment and Talent in Audit 12:10 - Unlocking the Full Value of Internal Audit 15:20 - Reframing the Image of Internal Audit 21:50 - Why Metrics Matter 27:58 - Must-Reads for Audit Professionals 31:30 - Implementing Copilot: AI in Action 39:15 - Final Thoughts * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Taylor Meadows, Founder and CEO of Change Captain. In this episode, Taylor shares his journey from manually managing IT change controls to founding Change Captain, a software solution that streamlines change management and R&D tax credit processes. We touch on organizations handle code changes, the risks involved, and how automation is revolutionizing compliance. Be sure to connect with Taylor on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 3:50 - Advancing Learning with AI 6:26 - Navigating Change Management in IT 10:19 - The Origin Story of CrowdStrike 11:52 - Understanding System Limitations 15:56 - Handling Emergency Changes Effectively 17:07 - Data-Driven Decision Making 19:00 - Exploring R&D Tax Credits 21:52 - Final Thoughts * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

We've tested Notebook LM again, an AI tool that transforms written articles into podcast episodes using artificially generated voices. This time, we used an article by Monica Royal, founder of Nerd Nourishment. Monica attended the Mini Spring Audit Analytics and AI Conference and shared her key takeaways in a LinkedIn article. We uploaded her piece to Notebook LM, and the result is an unedited, AI-generated podcast episode. Be sure to read Monica’s article and to connect with her on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 2:04 - The Fast-Paced Evolution of Data in AI and Analytics 3:22 - Audit Analytics Strategy and Role Structuring 5:21 - Using Data to Keep Sewer Compliance Flowing 7:14 - Harnessing Copilot for Speed & Efficiency 9:42 - Managing Innovation and AI 11:15 - Making an Agent is Easier * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by we’re joined by David Hill, Managing Director of HillAudit Training Ltd. In this episode, David challenges the idea that stability equals security and internal audit. He explores how budget cuts, resistance to change, and outdated processes can lead to disengagement—hurting recruitment, retention, and audit effectiveness. He also shares strategies to combat stagnation, from fostering innovation to leveraging AI and analytics for efficiency. Be sure to connect with David on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 2:40 - Shaking Up Complacency 9:17 - The One-Day Audit 12:57 - How Well do CAEs Know Their Budget 17:52 - How to Secure More Budget for Your Audit Goals 22:53 - How to Overcome Pushback 24:48 - Why Auditors Need Sales Skills 27:14 - Final thoughts * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Andrew Clark, Co-Founder and CTO of Monitaur. In this episode, Andrew shares his unique perspective on agentic AI, challenging common assumptions about what AI agents actually are. He explores the marketing problem with AI and agents, why agents might not be what we think, and the governance challenges that come with them. Be sure to connect with Andrew on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 5:22 – ChatGPT: Jack of All Trades, Master of None? 7:00 – Picking the Right Language Model 11:33 – What the Future Holds for AGI 16:15 – What AI Agents Are Really About 19:52 – The Marketing Issue with AI and Its Agents 25:06 – The Trouble with AI Agents 31:23 – How to Regulate AI and Its Agents 42:45 - Final thoughts * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Andrew Clark, Co-Founder and CTO of Monitaur. In this episode, Andrew shares his unique perspective on agentic AI, challenging common assumptions about what AI agents actually are. He explores the marketing problem with AI and agents, why agents might not be what we think, and the governance challenges that come with them. Be sure to connect with Andrew on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 3:48 - Using ChatGPT for Idea Generation 9:06 - Integrating Analytics into the Audit Process 16:12 - Navigating the Analytics Journey 22:04 - The Impact of Data Literacy 27:41 - SOX Automation 30:19 - Blockchain Trends in 2025 35:52 - Final Thoughts * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Ishan Kunkur, Digital Analytics Program Manager at Delta Air Lines. In this episode, Ishan shares how his team has embedded analytics into the audit process—from upskilling auditors with Power Query and Power BI training to automating SOX control testing, saving 360 hours annually. He explains how they evolved from performing analytics for audits to enabling auditors with data-driven tools, ultimately expanding into SOX automation and GRC dashboarding. Additionally, we dive into the intersection of AI and blockchain, discussing how blockchain's immutable ledger can enhance AI models by ensuring data integrity. Ishan also shares his perspective on career growth in an AI-driven world, emphasizing adaptability and continuous learning. Be sure to connect with Ishan on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 3:48 - Using ChatGPT for Idea Generation 9:06 - Integrating Analytics into the Audit Process 16:12 - Navigating the Analytics Journey 22:04 - The Impact of Data Literacy 27:41 - Animated Insights on SOX 30:19 - Blockchain Trends in 2025 35:52 - Final Thoughts * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics.

This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Courtney Dal Col, Director of Risk Advisory at Clearsulting. In this episode, we talk about the role of SOX in big business changes and why it often gets overlooked. Courtney shares how to make sure SOX is part of the process from the start, helping to avoid last-minute problems. She also explains why SOX is more than just a compliance task, how AI and automation are shaping its future, and what to expect from new regulations. Be sure to connect with Courtney on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. Timecodes: 2:11 - Simplify Your Kitchen Workflow With ChatGPT 4:37 - Driving Real Change In Organizations 6:02 - Rethinking Your SOX Strategy 8:11 - Clarifying SOX Roles 12:28 - The Risk Of Ignoring SOX In Transformation 15:35 - Key SOW Factors In Transformation 17:00 - Syncing SOX With Business Goals 18:50 - Leveraging Existing Automation 22:11 - A SOX Transformation Case Study 25:02 - The Future Of SOX 29:49 - Final Thoughts * This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule time with Greenskies Analytics. This episode is sponsored by Clearsulting.