Embodiment for the Rest of Us

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 4: Imani Barbarin Chavonne (she/her), Jenn (she/they), and Maya (she/her) interviewed Imani (she/her/hers) about her embodiment journey. Imani Barbarin is a disability rights and inclusion activist and speaker who uses her voice and social media platforms to create conversations engaging the disability community. Born with cerebral palsy, Imani often writes and uses her platform to speak from the perspective of a disabled Black woman. In the last few years she has created over a dozen trending hashtags that allow disabled folk the opportunity to have their perspectives heard while forcing the world to take notice. #PatientsAreNotFaking, #ThingsDisabledPeopleKnow, #AbledsAreWeird and others each provide a window into disabled life while forming community. Imani is from the Philadelphia area and holds a Masters in Global Communications from the American University of Paris, her published works include those in Forbes, Rewire, Healthline, BitchMedia and more. She runs the blog CrutchesAndSpice.com and a podcast of the same name. Content Warning: discussion of genocide, discussion of ableism privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of medicalized racism, discussion of racism, discussion of fatphobia in the career space, discussion of mental health, discussion of chronic medical issues, mentions of ableism, mentions of suicide, discussion of ageism Trigger Warnings: 58:30: Imani discusses weight loss surgery and eating disorders The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-4/season-4-episode-4-imani-barbarin/#captions A few highlights: 4:47: Imani shares her understanding of embodiment and her own embodiment journey 19:40: Imani discusses how the pandemic has affected her embodiment practices 47:22: Imani shares her understanding of “the rest of us” and how she is a part of that, as well as her privileges 59:33: Imani discusses her work with social media misinformation/disinformation and disability advocacy 1:14:11: Imanin shares how her embodiment around phobias and -isms 1:16:51: Imani discusses how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation 1:24:24: Imani shares where to be found and what’s next for her Links from this episode: Ableism American with Disabilities Act of 1990 (ADA) Autism Harriet Tubman Collective Iron Lung Movement for Black Lives Multiple Models of Disability PA Act 77 The Protest Psychosis Runaway Slave Syndrome Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License Please follow us on social media: Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com Twitter: @embodimentus Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 3: Niyera Hewlett Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Niyera (they/them) about their embodiment journey. Niyera (they/them) is a Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor in New Mexico and North Carolina who supervises counseling students, social work students, and licensed associates. They founded a queer and neurodivergent affirming mental health agency in Albuquerque that can be found at: youmeandtherapy.com. They work from an anti-oppressive, relational lens that helps inform how they approach supervision and therapy. They specialize in working with marginalized communities, complex trauma, dissociation, and much more. They are a trans non-binary neurodivergent human of Middle Eastern descent, raised by an immigrant mother. They reside in New Mexico with their spouse, two children, and three cats. In their spare time, they spend a lot of time imagining and writing fantasy stories as a special interest. Content Warning: discussion of genocide, discussion of ableism privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of racism, discussion of fatphobia in the career space, discussion of mental health, discussion of chronic medical issues Trigger Warnings: 53:24: Chavonne uses “crazy” in a way that is ableist. The captions for this episode can be found at A few highlights: 3:54: Niyera shares their understanding of embodiment and her own embodiment journey 9:28: Niyera discusses how the pandemic affected their embodiment practices 28:14: Niyera shares their understanding of “the rest of us” and how they are a part of that, as well as their privileges 31:42: Niyera discusses how the word “Rest” right in the middle of the podcast name feels, occurs, and shows up for her 42:55: Niyera shares how their own work and supporting clients has changed and challenged their relationship with their own embodiment 1:00:47: Niyera discusses their experience learning and unlearning while calling out what is oppressive in our systems 1:13:50: Niyera discusses how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation 1:21:29: Niyera shares where to be found and what’s next for them Links from this episode: Ableism Ample and Rooted Autism Binocular Vision Dysfunction Depersonalization Derealization Neurodivergence Persistent Drive for Autonomy (PDA) Reflective Supervision Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License Please follow us on social media: Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com Twitter: @embodimentus Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 2: Deep Dive with Tiana Dodson Jenn (she/they) and Chavonne (she/her) interviewed Tiana Dodson (she/her) for a deep dive about embodiment and children. Content Warning: discussion of sexuality Trigger Warnings: 1:45:30: Tiana uses “insane” in a way that is ableist The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-4/season-4-episode-2-tiana-dodson/#captions A few highlights: 7:06: Tiana discusses how children are embodiment teachers 59:32: Tiana shares how capacity and capability are distinct parts of embodiment 1:19:36: Tiana discusses creating and fostering foster relationships of liberation 1:37:00: Tiana shares what she’s doing next Links from this episode: ADHD Autism Being You: A First Conversation about Gender In This Body: Finding Liberation Virtual Conference Liberation is a Relationship Love Notes For A New Year The Nap Ministry Neurodivergence Other People Are In The Way of Your Liberation RAADS-R Reclaiming Ugly Rest is Resistance Sex Positive Families We Make the Path Yes: Your Empowered Sexuality Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License Please follow us on social media: Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com Twitter: @embodimentus Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 4, Episode 1: Season 4 Intro Episode Jenn (she/they) and Chavonne (she/her) introduce Season 4! Content Warning: None in this episode Trigger Warnings: None in this episode The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-4/season-4-episode-1-season-4-intro/#captions A few highlights: 2:02: Jenn and Chavonne share their words for 2024 20:27: Chavonne and Jenn discuss exploring disability and neurodiversity in Season 4 32:46: Jenn and Chavonne discuss their commitment to justice and liberation related to the most marginalized humans and bodies in the world Links from this episode: How To Keep House While Drowning Imani Barbarin Morgan Harper Nichols IG Post Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License Please follow us on social media: Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com Twitter: @embodimentus Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 13: Wrap Up Episode Jenn (she/her) and Chavonne (she/her) wrap up Season 3! Content Warning: None in this episode Trigger Warnings: None in this episode The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-3/season-3-episode-13-season-3-wrap-up-episode/#captions A few highlights: 2:13: Jenn and Chavonne discuss how processing and practicing rest changed and challenged them in 2023 13:14: Chavonne and Jenn discuss capability vs. capacity in their personal and professional lives 23:39: Jenn and Chavonne discuss what they’re looking forward to next year for the podcast Links from this episode: Love Jenni K Mikey Mercedes Neurodivergence Whitney Trotter Whole Self Counseling Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License Please follow us on social media: Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com Twitter: @embodimentus Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 12: Lisa Daughters and Fawn McCool Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Lisa Daughters (she/her) and Fawn McCool (she/her) about their embodiment journeys. Lisa Daughters (she/her) is a HAES-aligned fat-positive, LGBTQIA+ allied, social justice informed Expressive Arts Therapist. She works with fat folx, LGBTQIA+ community, grief/loss, fertility struggles and pregnancy loss, relationship challenges, family dynamics - these are all near and dear to her. She has been serving clients as a professional counselor for 12 years, working with a variety of settings and concerns. She works from a person-centered approach, using humor, mindfulness, and acceptance as tools of healing and transformation. She believes in the need to broaden our view from seeing individual struggles as collective, moving towards solutions that foster interdependence and equity. She approaches counseling as a co-creation, and considers her role to be an insightful companion through the process. She trusts the inherent wholeness of each individual. I have specific training in Expressive Arts Therapy, which utilizes art-making as therapeutic. Lisa is strongly anti-diet and diet-culture. She is involved in the fat liberation movement. And it's impossible to talk about body politics without talking about racism, misogyny, and ableism. She is anti-capitalist, and anti-racist. She loves animals and spent years before becoming a therapist working with animals. She believes current social and economic structures have stripped our sense of community and our emotional experiences have been villainized and pathologized to the point that mental health is a growing challenge. She thinks it's a disservice to focus only on individual health without also addressing community. She does not believe in the paternalistic dynamic that she has seen in the mental health world, and she thinks to do my work well she has to be continually learning. * Fawn McCool (she/her pronouns), is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) with a private practice based in Portland, Oregon. Her therapeutic approach is warm, nurturing, collaborative, engaged, and nerdy. She loves brain science so there MIGHT be some mention of neural plasticity or blaming of neural pathways along the way. She will shame the patriarchy, never you. As an LCSW, she has worked in a variety of settings providing skilled trauma-informed services to families, women and children. She offers clinical therapeutic services in Tigard, OR and enjoys working with a wide variety of issues including but not limited to: trauma, depression, anxiety, OCD, ADHD, perinatal/postpartum mood and anxiety disorders, infant loss, and fertility issues . She received her Masters of Social Work degree at California State University, Los Angeles in 2006. Her professional credentials include certification in Interpersonal Neurobiology through Portland State University and is Ample & Rooted trained. Additionally, she has had the honor of presenting at several professional conferences focused on Neonatal Intensive Care Unit experiences, neuroscience & birth trauma, and behavioral health counseling in school based health centers. She is an anti-racist, LGBTQ+ affirming, and HAES provider. Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of racism, discussion of fatphobia in the career space, discussion of mental health, discussion of chronic medical issues 40:28-53:29: Chavonne’s audio goes a bit wonky Trigger Warnings: 34:22: Fawn mentions Noom and Ozempic 49:42: Lisa uses the words “crazy” and “nutty” in a way that is ableist The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-3/season-3-episode-12-lisa-daughters-and-fawn-mccool/#captions A few highlights: 7:08: Lisa and Fawn share their understanding of “the rest of us” and how they are a part of that, as well as...

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 11: Fawn McCool and Lisa Daughters Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Fawn McCool (she/her) and Lisa Daughters (she/her) about their embodiment journeys. Fawn McCool (she/her pronouns), is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) with a private practice based in Portland, Oregon. Her therapeutic approach is warm, nurturing, collaborative, engaged, and nerdy. She loves brain science so there MIGHT be some mention of neural plasticity or blaming of neural pathways along the way. She will shame the patriarchy, never you. As an LCSW, she has worked in a variety of settings providing skilled trauma-informed services to families, women and children. She offers clinical therapeutic services in Tigard, OR and enjoys working with a wide variety of issues including but not limited to: trauma, depression, anxiety, OCD, ADHD, perinatal/postpartum mood and anxiety disorders, infant loss, and fertility issues. She received her Masters of Social Work degree at California State University, Los Angeles in 2006. Her professional credentials include certification in Interpersonal Neurobiology through Portland State University and is Ample & Rooted trained. Additionally, she has had the honor of presenting at several professional conferences focused on Neonatal Intensive Care Unit experiences, neuroscience & birth trauma, and behavioral health counseling in school based health centers. She is an anti-racist, LGBTQ+ affirming, and HAES provider. * Lisa Daughters (she/her) is a HAES-aligned fat-positive, LGBTQIA+ allied, social justice informed Expressive Arts Therapist. She works with fat folx, LGBTQIA+ community, grief/loss, fertility struggles and pregnancy loss, relationship challenges, family dynamics - these are all near and dear to her. She has been serving clients as a professional counselor for 12 years, working with a variety of settings and concerns. She works from a person-centered approach, using humor, mindfulness, and acceptance as tools of healing and transformation. She believes in the need to broaden our view from seeing individual struggles as collective, moving towards solutions that foster interdependence and equity. She approaches counseling as a co-creation, and considers her role to be an insightful companion through the process. She trusts the inherent wholeness of each individual. I have specific training in Expressive Arts Therapy, which utilizes art-making as therapeutic. Lisa is strongly anti-diet and diet-culture. She is involved in the fat liberation movement. And it's impossible to talk about body politics without talking about racism, misogyny, and ableism. She is anti-capitalist, and anti-racist. She loves animals and spent years before becoming a therapist working with animals. She believes current social and economic structures have stripped our sense of community and our emotional experiences have been villainized and pathologized to the point that mental health is a growing challenge. She thinks it's a disservice to focus only on individual health without also addressing community. She does not believe in the paternalistic dynamic that she has seen in the mental health world, and she thinks to do my work well she has to be continually learning. Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of racism, discussion of fatphobia in the career space, discussion of mental health, discussion of chronic medical issues Trigger Warnings: 39:23: Lisa discusses getting bariatric surgery The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-3/season-3-episode-11-fawn-mccool-and-lisa-daughters/#captions A few highlights: 15:05: Fawn and Lisa shares their understanding of embodiment and their own embodiment journeys 1:07:56: Fawn and Lisa discuss how the pandemic has affected their embodiment practices Links from this episode: All...

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 10: Whitney Trotter Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Whitney Trotter (she/her) about their embodiment journey. Whitney Trotter (she/her) is dually licensed as a Registered Dietitian, Nurse, and yoga instructor and is currently working on her doctorate degree to become a psychiatric nurse practitioner. Whitney has over ten years of experience working as a registered dietitian serving various communities such as the HIV/AIDS community and the eating disorder field. Whitney also previously worked at a Level 1 Pediatric Trauma Center as a Pediatric emergency room nurse. In addition to working as an RDN and RN, Whitney has served as a member of her county's Rape Crisis Center. Her work at the Rape Crisis Center equipped her to co-found an anti-trafficking organization Restore Corps, where she now provides medical training to the community focusing on human trafficking response. Whitney's career in the Eating Disorder field includes being a former Nutrition and Nursing director of a Residential, PHP, and IOP center. Whitney is also the owner/founder of Bluff City Health, a private practice that bridges the gap in the eating disorder field of equitable care and social justice. This past year Whitney created the first-ever BIPOC Eating Disorders Conference and started #BIPOCEatingDisordersAwarenessWeek Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of racism, discussion of fatphobia in the career space, discussion of mental health, discussion of chronic medical issues Trigger Warnings: None for this episode The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-3/season-3-episode-10-whitney-trotter/#captions A few highlights: 4:21: Whitney shares her understanding of embodiment and her own embodiment journey 8:10: Whitney discusses how the pandemic affected her embodiment practices 14:26: Whitney shares her understanding of “the rest of us” and how she is a part of that, as well as her privileges 24:46: Whitney discusses how the word “Rest” right in the middle of the podcast name feels, occurs, and shows up for her 43:58: Whitney shares how her education and career have changed and challenged her relationship with her own embodiment 51:18: Whitney discusses her process in co-creating the BIPOC Eating Disorders Conference 1:10:31: Whitney shares her experience learning and unlearning while calling out what is oppressive in our systems 1:19:27: Whitney discusses how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation 1:26:05: Whitney shares where to be found and what’s next for her Links from this episode: Ableism Angela Goens BIPOC Eating Disorders Conference Body Trust Fatness Spectrum Intersectionality Marquisele Mercedes Relative Fat vs. Absolute Fat Tiana Dodson Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License Please follow us on social media: Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com Twitter: @embodimentus Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 9: Mikey Mercedes Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Mikey Mercedes (she/they) about their embodiment journey. Marquisele (Mikey) Mercedes (she/they) is a fat liberationist writer, creator, educator, and doctoral student from the Bronx, New York. As a Presidential Fellow at the Brown University School of Public Health, she works at the intersection of critical public health studies, fat studies, and scholarship on race/ism, examining how racism, anti-Blackness, and fatphobia have shaped health care, research, and public health. Mikey is also a co-host of the podcast Unsolicited: Fatties Talk Back, which explores the lived fat experience from diverse vantage points to examine fatphobia in our relationships and culture. Her socials are @marquisele on Twitter, @fatmarquisele on Instagram, and Patreon.com/marquisele on Patreon. Their website is also marquiselemercedes.com Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of racism, discussion of mental health, discussion of chronic medical issues, discussion of medical fatphobia Trigger Warnings: None for this episode The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-3/season-3-episode-9-mikey-mercedes/#captions A few highlights: 3:43: Mikey shares their understanding of “the rest of us” and how they are a part of that, as well as their privileges 1:03:33: Mikey discusses how “Rest” right in the middle of the podcast name feels, occurs, and shows up for her 1:38:34: Mikey shares her work on her podcast and how she stays embodied while working with her co-hosts 1:59:58: Mikey discusses how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation 2:04:08: Mikey shares where to be found and what’s next for them Links from this episode: ADHD Autism Black Feminism Reimagined Black Feminist Thought Da’Shaun Harrison Ebony Oldham Elite Capture The Embodiment of Disobedience Fat Activism Fatness Spectrum Fatty MPH Fearing the Black Body Google Form for Mikey’s doctoral research Health Communism Kimberlé Crenshaw Matrix of Domination Rachel Fox Rest Is Resistance Rebecca Puhl Sydney Sky Unsolicited: Fatties Talk Back Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License Please follow us on social media: Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com Twitter: @embodimentus Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 8: Marquisele Mercedes Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Marquisele Mercedes (she/they) about their embodiment journey. Marquisele (Mikey) Mercedes (she/they) is a fat liberationist writer, creator, educator, and doctoral student from the Bronx, New York. As a Presidential Fellow at the Brown University School of Public Health, she works at the intersection of critical public health studies, fat studies, and scholarship on race/ism, examining how racism, anti-Blackness, and fatphobia have shaped health care, research, and public health. Mikey is also a co-host of the podcast Unsolicited: Fatties Talk Back, which explores the lived fat experience from diverse vantage points to examine fatphobia in our relationships and culture. Her socials are @marquisele on Twitter, @fatmarquisele on Instagram, and Patreon.com/marquisele on Patreon. Their website is also marquiselemercedes.com Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of racism, discussion of mental health, discussion of chronic medical issues, discussion of medical fatphobia Trigger Warnings: 29:06: Discussion of fatphobia regarding climate change 45:21: Discussion of government manipulation of COVID data 47:16: Discussion of hate of disabled people 1:11:25: Discussion of Mikey’s history with Lindo Bacon in the first two weeks of March 2022 here, here, here, and here among others (with updates here and here) The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-3/season-3-episode-8-marquisele-mercedes/#captions A few highlights: 6:09: Mikey shares her understanding of embodiment and her own embodiment journey 26:47: Mikey discusses how the pandemic has affected their embodiment practices Links from this episode: Aaron Flores ADHD Autism Blakeley Payne Breathing Into the Machine Credentialism Da’Shaun Harrison Fatness Spectrum Fatty MPH Fit To Be Citizens? Mikey’s Pipewrench Piece Mikey’s Wegovy Piece People’s CDC PTSD Rachel Fox Sherronda Brown Announced as Scalawag Magazine's Editor-in-Chief Wear Your Voice Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License Please follow us on social media: Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com Twitter: @embodimentus Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 7: Wednesdae Reim Ifrach Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Wednesdae Reim Ifrach (they/them) about their embodiment journey. Wednesdae is a trans/non-binary art therapist, fat activist and artist whose work focuses on body justice, intersectional social justice and eating disorder treatment equity access. They also co-own and operate Rainbow Recovery where they support people through the gender affirmation process, complex trauma recovery, eating disorder recovery and body image issues through the use of art, creative expression and traditional talk therapy. Wednesdae melds the world of art therapy, social justice, trauma recovery and eating disorder recovery into a unique opportunity for people to expand their understanding of the world. To that end Wednesdae had the honor to participate in the Museum of Modern Art (MoMA)’s Artful Practices for Well-being and has had artwork on display at the Baltimore Museum of Art as part of Art as Activism. They have presented at national and international conferences, are a former adjunct professor and continues to guest lecture. They also serve on the Board of Project HEAL, a non-profit whose mission is to create treatment equity access in the eating disorder field. Wednesdae’s biggest passions outside of work include spending time with their many rescue animals, experimenting with traditional family recipes, painting, and spending time with their partner. Instagram Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of racism, discussion of mental health, discussion of chronic medical issues, discussion of harm caused by helping professionals Trigger Warnings: 1:14:40: Wednesdae discusses how sexual abuse can be covered by calling victims in treatment “noncompliant” 1:15:18: Wednesdae discusses typical eating disorder rules and how harmful and wrong they are 1:17:59: Wednesdae discusses their history of abuse 1:22:14: Wednesdae uses the word “nuts” in a way that is ableist The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-3/season-3-episode-7-wednesdae-reim-ifrach/#captions A few highlights: 5:36: Wednesdae shares their understanding of embodiment and their own embodiment journey 19:58: Wednesdae discusses how the pandemic affected their embodiment practices 54:57: Wednesdae shares their understanding of “the rest of us” and how they are a part of that, as well as their privileges 1:07:58: Wednesdae discusses how their work with Rainbow Recovery and Project HEAL has influenced their own relationship with embodiment 1:19:04: Wednesdae shares how stereotypes of productivity, availability, and capability/capacity relate to being a clinician 1:24:48: Wednesdae discusses how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation 1:26:28: Wednesdae shares where to be found and what’s next for them Links from this episode: ADHD Anxiety Kelly Diels Michelle Phillips Nalgona Positivity Pride White Supremacy Culture Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License Please follow us on social media: Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com Twitter: @embodimentus Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 6: Neathery Falchuk Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Neathery Falchuk (they/them) about their embodiment journey. Neathery Falchuk (they/them) is a queer, trans and non-binary, white Latinx, fat, and neurodivergent therapist, licensed clinical social worker and supervisor, certified group psychotherapist, certified Body Trust® provider, and certified meditation teacher. Neathery is the founder of Ample and Rooted, an inclusive psychotherapy, consulting, and training practice specializing in working with eating disorders, body liberation, sex and sexuality, gender, relationship concerns, trauma, mindfulness, grief and loss, and substance use. Neathery is a past President of Central Texas Eating Disorder Specialists, past board member of Austin Group Psychotherapy Society and former chair of the DEI Committee, past board member of the Association for Size Diversity and Health, and currently serves on the program committee for Project HEAL. Neathery lives in Austin, TX with their wife and enjoys hiking, meditation, sipping coffee on patios, and starting and never finishing books. Ample + Rooted, as an inclusive therapy practice, cultivates a safe and welcoming space of compassion and connection. At Ample + Rooted, we believe it is our birthright to inhabit, trust and honor our physical and emotional selves without shame. We believe in cultivating a healing home for the whole you and that this healing and belonging is profoundly vital in creating a more equitable and just world. We believe compassion, pleasure and embodiment lead the way toward healing and liberation. The practice is rooted in Health at Every Size®, Body Trust®, fat-positive, sex-positive, LGBTQ+ affirming, harm reduction, trauma-responsive, culturally responsive, and anti-oppressive frameworks. For more information, please visit: www.ampleandrooted.com and follow us on IG: @ampleandrooted Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of racism, discussion of mental health, discussion of death of a family member Trigger Warnings: None for this episode The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-3/season-3-episode-6-neathery-falchuk/#captions A few highlights: 5:46: Neathery shares their understanding of embodiment and their own embodiment journey 21:33: Neathery discusses how the pandemic affected their embodiment practices 52:25: Neathery shares their understanding of “the rest of us” and how they are a part of that, as well as their privileges 1:07:49: Neathery discusses how their work with Ample + Rooted Foundations has influenced their own relationship with embodiment 1:24:48: Neathery shares how their work with the Ample + Rooted Gathering Space has enhanced their embodiment within our field and the changes, revolutions, and evolutions they are working on making 1:40:43: Neathery discusses how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation 1:43:10 Neathery shares where to be found and what’s next for them Links from this episode: Body Trust Bodymind Michelle Phillips Miracle Question Sirius Bonner Tiana Dodson Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License Please follow us on social media: Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com Twitter: @embodimentus Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 5: Esther Tambe Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Esther Tambe (she/her) about her embodiment journey. Esther Tambe is a Registered Dietitian and Certified Diabetes Care and Education Specialist based in Long Island, NY. She is the founder of Esther Tambe Nutrition, LLC. She received her master’s degree in Nutrition with a concentration in Exercise Science from Long Island University. She also received her bachelor’s degrees in Nutrition from Long Island University and Health Science-Public Health at Stony Brook University. Esther has worked in underserved communities, providing nutrition education and counseling to individuals with chronic illnesses like diabetes, hypertension, chronic kidney disease, and HIV/AIDS. Esther is committed to increasing awareness of eating disorders and weight-inclusive nutrition counseling in Black communities. In addition to her work as a dietitian, Esther is involved in several other projects and initiatives. In August 2020, Esther co-founded Fight Through Flights Inc. This non-profit organization aims to empower and support the healing of Black women living with breast cancer and breast cancer survivors. Esther enjoys traveling worldwide, taking Zumba classes, and spending time with her family outside of work. Esther Tambe's Instagram Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of eating disorders, discussion of healthism, discussion of racism, discussion of mental health Trigger Warnings: 53:48: Jenn discusses prescribed weight loss The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-3/season-3-episode-5-esther-tambe/#captions A few highlights: 3:53: Esther shares her understanding of embodiment and her own embodiment journey 7:54: Esther discusses how the pandemic affected her embodiment practices 20:49: Esther shares her understanding of “the rest of us” and how she is a part of that, as well as her privileges 28:20: Esther discusses how her work with historically and currently marginalized populations has influenced her own relationship with embodiment 34:18: Esther shares her experience with embodiment as a diabetes educator 1:06:45: Esther discusses how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation 1:08:18: Esther shares where to be found and what’s next for her Links from this episode: Dubious Diagnosis Iatrogenesis Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License Please follow us on social media: Twitter: @embodimentus Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 4: Aaron Flores Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Aaron Flores (he/him) about his embodiment journey. Aaron Flores is a registered dietitian nutritionist and Certified Body Trust® provider. With over 10 years of experience, Aaron has worked with eating disorders in a variety of settings over his career, including the VA Healthcare System and Center for Discovery. He currently has a private practice in Calabasas, CA. Aaron uses Intuitive Eating, Health at Every Size®, and Body Trust® as the framework to help individuals develop a more compassionate, non-judgemental approach to food and their body. His work has been featured on the 10% Happier Podcast, in the New York Times, Huffington Post and Buzzfeed. Aaron is also a frequent speaker, presenting at national and international eating disorder conferences. In addition to his individual work with clients, he is also a podcaster. His two shows are Men Unscripted and, Dietitians Unplugged. Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of eating disorders, discussion of healthism, discussion of racism, discussion of mental health, mention of child abuse, mention of suicide Trigger Warnings: None for this episode The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-3/season-3-episode-4-aaron-flores/#captions A few highlights: 5:40: Aaron shares his understanding of embodiment and his own embodiment journey 18:35: Aaron discusses how the pandemic affected his embodiment practices 35:12: Aaron shares his understanding of “the rest of us” and how he is a part of that, as well as his privileges 1:21:00: Aaron discusses how podcasting has enhanced his connection to embodiment 1:30:41: Aaron shares how advocating for fat providers and fat men has changed his own embodiment 1:42:09 Aaron shares where to be found and what’s next for him Links from this episode: Body Trust Dr. Rachel Millner Marci Evans Orthorexia Sonny Patel White Supremacy Culture Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License Please follow us on social media: Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com Twitter: @embodimentus Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 3: Alishia McCullough Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Alishia McCullough (she/her) about her somatic embodiment journey of reclaiming the Black body. Alishia McCullough (she/her) is a Licensed Clinical Mental Health Therapist, Somatic Healer, Writer, and Culture Shifter supporting BIPOC folks to holistically heal their relationship with their bodies. She specializes in somatic therapy, trauma healing, and eating disorder treatment with a focus on increasing embodied awareness and liberation. She is the owner of Black and Embodied™ Counseling and Consulting PLLC, outside of her clinical work, she is a Co-Founder of the global Amplify Melanated Voices Movement 2020, and has worked as a mental health influencer in META's "wellbeing collective". Her work has been featured by Forbes, Target, Bustle, Times OC, and Black Girl Nerds. To learn more about her work, check out at blackandembodied.com and her Instagram account @blackandembodied. Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of eating disorders, discussion of healthism, discussion of racism Trigger Warnings: None for this episode The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-3/season-3-episode-3-alishia-mccullough/#captions A few highlights: 6:36: Alishia shares her understanding of the complexities of embodiment for Black, Indigenous, and People of the Global Majority 36:45: Alishia discusses her devotion to her own embodiment and supporting others’ embodiment process 45:01: Alishia shares her process writing her book, Reclaiming the Black Body 53:11: Alishia discusses how she sees her support work expanding in the future 1:01:35: Alishia shares how she encourages others and herself to hold boundaries around checking in with capacity, tuning into misalignment, and reclaiming energy 1:25:37: Alishia discusses the linked parallels of trauma-informed and race-informed work 1:39:57: Alishia shares what’s next for her personally and professionally Links from this episode: #AmplifyMelanatedVoices The Healing Wisdom of Africa Imani Babarin In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts It’s Always Been Ours Jessica Wilson Life with Lost Keys On Being with Krista Trippett episode with Resmaa Menakem Rene Brooks Resmaa Menakem Rest Is Resistance The Spirit Catches You and You Fall Down What My Bones Know White Supremacy Culture Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License Please follow us on social media: Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com Twitter: @embodimentus Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 2: Kymber Stephenson Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Kymber Stephenson (she/her) about re-embodiment, the stepping stones that support neurodivergent embodiment, and what’s next in her embodiment journey. Kymber Stephenson (she/her) is a registered dietitian nutritionist living & working in Fort Collins, Colorado. As the Clinical Director at Side by Side Nutrition, she supports clients and clinicians in their exploration of what embodiment & food flexibility could be in today's world. Kymber came to this work passionate about inclusive disordered eating management and prevention. She believes all people deserve equitable access to quality food and evidence-based nutrition education, regardless of status or background. In this vein, she focuses on educating clients about the multi-faceted ways history, marketing, food systems, culture, psychology, and body image affect health and relationships to nutrition, food, and body. Recognizing the complex, sometimes painful associations brought on by these challenges, she works with her clients to find their vision for their most peaceful relationship with food, acknowledging not only its nourishing properties, but truly embracing its comforts, tradition, and fun! Kymber's philosophy is that disordered eating is rooted primarily in an iceberg of social injustice, and that it is an individual's birthright to reclaim a peaceful, confident relationship with food while embracing satisfaction in their bodies and their overall lives. Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of eating disorders, discussion of healthism, mention of anti-choice laws Trigger Warnings: None for this episode The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-3/season-3-episode-2-kymber-stephenson/#captions A few highlights: 4:30: Kymber shares how her understanding of the complexities of embodiment and neurodivergence, specifically ADHD, has changed for her 31:26: Kymber discusses re-embodiment 51:53: Kymber discusses the process of body imaging 1:12:43: Kymber shares how the complexities of all of the parts that live within us show up in embodiment work 1:27:52 Kymber discusses looking for “what’s next” 1:35:21: Kymber shares how body autonomy, personal agency, safety, and security are intrinsic to embodiment conversations 1:42:50: Kymber discusses and what’s next for her personally and professionally Links from this episode: ADHD ADHD and Children’s Self-Esteem Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents Attachment Theory The Blackfoot People’s Hierarchy of Needs Cognitive Flexibility Impostor Syndrome Neuroplasticity Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria Sheila Ciminera Tiana Dodson US Airplane Cockpit Measurement Study White Supremacy Culture Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License Please follow us on social media: Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com Twitter: @embodimentus Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 3, Episode 1: Intro Episode Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) discuss what’s coming up for them, and for you, in Season 3! Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of racism, discussion of mental health, discussion of death of a family member Trigger Warnings: 39:50: Jenn discusses trichotillomania and dermatillomania The captions for this episode can be found at https://EmbodimentForTheRestOfUs.com/Season-3/Season-3-Episode-1-Season-Intro/#Captions Links from this episode: Accessibility Awareness Body Trust Camel Case/Pascal Case Dermatillomania Higher Priestess Kelly Diels Kymber Stephenson Michelle Phillips Molly Adler Neathery Falchuk Rest Is Resistance Sheila Ciminera Trichotillomania Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License Please follow us on social media: Website: EmbodimentForTheRestOfUs.com Twitter: @EmbodimentUs Instagram: @EmbodimentForTheRestOfUs

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 2, Episode 12: Season 2 Wrap-Up Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) review season 2–all they learned and unlearned–and plans for season 3! See you in 2023!! Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of fatphobia, mention of eugenics Trigger Warnings: 42:23: Jenn misgenders Michelle Phillips (they/them/theirs) and apologizes 1:14:21: Chavonne says the beginning of an ableist word The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-2/season-2-episode-12-wrap-up/#captions/ A few highlights: 2:55: Chavonne and Jenn share their understanding of “embodiment” now 11:02: Jenn and Chavonne discuss their understanding of “the rest of us” now 33:53: Chavonne and Jenn share their most memorable moments from the season 42:34: Jenn and Chavonne discuss their biggest takeaways from the season 55:20: Chavonne and Jenn share what they’re looking forward to for season 3 1:18:09: Jenn and Chavonne discuss embodiment during their intentional rest break for the rest of 2022 Links from this episode: Ample and Rooted Chelsea Levy Dr. Joy Cox Health At Every Size® (HAES®) (especially the FAQ for the origin of the HAES® movement) Jen McLellan Jes Baker Kymber Stephenson Laziness Does Not Exist Nicola Haggett Michelle Phillips Rest Is Resistance Tiana Dodson Window of Tolerance Intuitive Eating Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License Please follow us on social media: Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com Twitter: @embodimentus Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 2, Episode 10: Jen McLellan Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Jen McLellan (she/her) about her embodiment journey. Jen McLellan, CBE, is a published author, founder of Plus Size Birth, and host of the Plus Mommy Podcast. She helps people navigate the world of plus size pregnancy, shares tips for embracing your body, and laughs her way through the adventures of parenthood. With over 7 million page views, Plus Size Bith is the premier plus size pregnancy resource trusted by parents and professionals. The Plus Mommy Podcast has over 280,000 downloads and was named one of the best pregnancy podcasts of 2022 by The Bump. Jen's work has been featured in major publications, including The New York Times, Glamour, and Huffington Post. As a public speaker, Jen has been featured at numerous events, including presenting at the National Institutes of Health. Jen is also a certified childbirth educator, wife, and mother to a charismatic twelve-year-old. Plus Mommy Podcast - https://plusmommy.com/ Plus Mommy Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/plusmommy/ Plus Size Birth - https://plussizebirth.com/plus-size-pregnancy/ Plus Size Birth Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/plussizebirth/ My Size-Friendly Care Providers Guide (free guide on how to connect with a size-friendly care provider) - https://plussizebirth.com/subscribe/ Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of medical fatphobia, discussion of fatphobia, discussion of fatphobia Trigger Warnings: None for this episode The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-2/season-2-episode-11-jen-mclellan/#captions/ A few highlights: 5:19: Jen shares her understanding of embodiment and her own embodiment journey 13:05: Jen discusses how the pandemic affected her embodiment practices 24:02: Jen shares her understanding of “the rest of us” and how she is a part of that, as well as her privileges 31:34: Jen discusses how podcasting has enhanced her connection to embodiment 36:56: Jen shares how advocating for fat pregnancy and birth has changed her own embodiment 52:36: Jen discusses how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation 1:00:19: Jen shares where to be found and what’s next for her Links from this episode: Intuitive Eating Jen’s Viral “Flying While Fat” IG Reel Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License Please follow us on social media: Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com Twitter: @embodimentus Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus

Embodiment for the Rest of Us - Season 2, Episode 10: Kymber Stephenson Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Kymber Stephenson (she/her) about her embodiment journey. Kymber Stephenson is a Registered Dietitian Nutritionist living and working in Colorado. Her experience began with a love of food which led her to pursue a degree in Culinary Arts from Johnson & Wales University. As her love of science and helping people wove with that initial path, she continued on to a Bachelor of Science in Culinary Nutrition with a dual concentration in clinical dietetics and culinary food science. From there, her background spanned diverse roles across the food, nutrition, and healthcare sectors as she went on to ground in medical nutrition therapy. Kymber is especially passionate about disordered eating management and prevention. In this vein, she focuses on educating clients about the multi-faceted ways history, marketing, food systems, culture, psychology, and body image affect health and relationships to nutrition, food, and body. She works with clients to restore & build their relationship with food, acknowledging not only its nourishing properties, but truly embracing its comforts, tradition, and fun! Kymber is a strong believer in a whole person approach, embracing integrated body image counseling which often goes far deeper than simply body or image. Working in a client-guided manner and Health at Every Size-informed, she strives to help each unique person reach their idea of peace and satisfaction in their bodies and their overall lives. Kymber's driving philosophy is that all people deserve equitable access to quality food, evidence-based nutrition education, informed consent, and bodily autonomy regardless of status or background. Socials: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kymberstephenson @sidebysidenutrition Content Warning: discussion of privilege, discussion of diet culture, discussion of ableism, discussion of healthism Trigger Warnings: 49:18: Kymber discusses Lindo Bacon’s work before more awareness of the harm that they have caused in their work came to light in the first two weeks of March 2022 here, here, here, and here among others (with updates here and here) (this episode was recorded in April 2022) 1:13:44: Chavonne discusses how white supremacy culture impacts her eating behaviors The captions for this episode can be found at https://embodimentfortherestofus.com/season-2/season-2-episode-10-kymber-stephenson/#captions/ A few highlights: 2:49: Kymber shares her understanding of embodiment and her own embodiment journey 14:54: Kymber discusses how the pandemic affected her embodiment practices 34:54: Kymber shares her understanding of “the rest of us” and how she is a part of that, as well as her privileges 48:20: Kymber discusses her take on IE, HAES® and AND 1:26:06: Kymber shares how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation as well as where to be found and what’s next for her Links from this episode: ASDAH’s response to Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics’ Evidence Analysis Library (1) ASDAH’s response to Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics’ Evidence Analysis Library (2) Health At Every Size® (HAES®) (especially the FAQ for the origin of the HAES® movement) Intuitive Eating Kyriarchy Laziness Does Not Exist Nikki Haggett Sick Enough Social Determinants of Health White Supremacy Culture Music: “Bees and Bumblebees (Abeilles et Bourdons​)​, Op. 562” by Eugène Dédé through the Creative Commons License Please follow us on social media: Website: embodimentfortherestofus.com Twitter: @embodimentus Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus